Comments on: 4 runner purchase http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:58:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: admin http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase/comment-page-1#comment-1179 admin Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:02:40 +0000 http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase#comment-1179 Typical price at a brake shop would be $50~$60 per axle. I've always done <br /> the brakes on my '86 4Runner and other Toyotas, even though rear drums are <br /> sometimes a bear! It's one of the easier maintenance items and I get free <br /> brake pads due to the lifetime warranty. You don't have to bleed the brakes <br /> if you are careful. The worst thing that can happen is an overflow of brake <br /> fluid out of the reservoir if you don't remove some fluid before you push <br /> the caliper pistons back. Rotors shouldn't be turned unless you gouge them. <br /> When you hear metal on metal, it's too late and turning will be needed. Most <br /> shops charge about $7 or so to turn a rotor for you if you want to do that <br /> separately. <br /> <p>-Bill <br /> </p><p>"Ryan" <ridinh...@mindspring.com> wrote in message <br /> <br />news:8gcsi2$shg$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net... <br /> </p><p>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -</p>> I work at a dealership... they just charge alot.. thats about it... you <br /> can <br /> > do it yourself alot cheaper. <br /> > Robert Leonard III <stunt...@koan.com> wrote in message <br /> > news:siav2ferius27@corp.supernews.com... <br /> > > My 4Runner needs new pads and the rotors turned.. I just called Toyota <br /> and <br /> > > they want $340 to do it!!!  Is there something I'm missing?  Can't I <br /> just <br /> > > buy some pads, take the rotors down and have them turned someplace... is <br /> > > there really so much work to this that they can reasonably charge that <br /> > > much?? <br /> <p>> > Thanks for your thoughts! <br /> <br /> </p> Typical price at a brake shop would be $50~$60 per axle. I’ve always done
the brakes on my ’86 4Runner and other Toyotas, even though rear drums are
sometimes a bear! It’s one of the easier maintenance items and I get free
brake pads due to the lifetime warranty. You don’t have to bleed the brakes
if you are careful. The worst thing that can happen is an overflow of brake
fluid out of the reservoir if you don’t remove some fluid before you push
the caliper pistons back. Rotors shouldn’t be turned unless you gouge them.
When you hear metal on metal, it’s too late and turning will be needed. Most
shops charge about $7 or so to turn a rotor for you if you want to do that
separately.

-Bill

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> I work at a dealership… they just charge alot.. thats about it… you
can
> do it yourself alot cheaper.
> Robert Leonard III <stunt…@koan.com> wrote in message
> news:siav2ferius27@corp.supernews.com…
> > My 4Runner needs new pads and the rotors turned.. I just called Toyota
and
> > they want $340 to do it!!!  Is there something I’m missing?  Can’t I
just
> > buy some pads, take the rotors down and have them turned someplace… is
> > there really so much work to this that they can reasonably charge that
> > much??

> > Thanks for your thoughts!

]]> By: admin http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase/comment-page-1#comment-1180 admin Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:02:40 +0000 http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase#comment-1180 Rotors and/or drums should always be turned if you want smooth reliable <br /> braking!  K <br /> <p>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -</p>Bill McCalla wrote: <br /> > Typical price at a brake shop would be $50~$60 per axle. I've always done <br /> > the brakes on my '86 4Runner and other Toyotas, even though rear drums are <br /> > sometimes a bear! It's one of the easier maintenance items and I get free <br /> > brake pads due to the lifetime warranty. You don't have to bleed the brakes <br /> > if you are careful. The worst thing that can happen is an overflow of brake <br /> > fluid out of the reservoir if you don't remove some fluid before you push <br /> > the caliper pistons back. Rotors shouldn't be turned unless you gouge them. <br /> > When you hear metal on metal, it's too late and turning will be needed. Most <br /> > shops charge about $7 or so to turn a rotor for you if you want to do that <br /> > separately. <br /> <p>> -Bill <br /> </p><p>> "Ryan" <ridinh...@mindspring.com> wrote in message <br /> > news:8gcsi2$shg$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net... <br /> > > I work at a dealership... they just charge alot.. thats about it... you <br /> > can <br /> > > do it yourself alot cheaper. <br /> > > Robert Leonard III <stunt...@koan.com> wrote in message <br /> > > news:siav2ferius27@corp.supernews.com... <br /> > > > My 4Runner needs new pads and the rotors turned.. I just called Toyota <br /> > and <br /> > > > they want $340 to do it!!!  Is there something I'm missing?  Can't I <br /> > just <br /> > > > buy some pads, take the rotors down and have them turned someplace... is <br /> > > > there really so much work to this that they can reasonably charge that <br /> > > > much?? <br /> </p><p>> > > Thanks for your thoughts! <br /> <br /> </p> Rotors and/or drums should always be turned if you want smooth reliable
braking!  K

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Bill McCalla wrote:
> Typical price at a brake shop would be $50~$60 per axle. I’ve always done
> the brakes on my ’86 4Runner and other Toyotas, even though rear drums are
> sometimes a bear! It’s one of the easier maintenance items and I get free
> brake pads due to the lifetime warranty. You don’t have to bleed the brakes
> if you are careful. The worst thing that can happen is an overflow of brake
> fluid out of the reservoir if you don’t remove some fluid before you push
> the caliper pistons back. Rotors shouldn’t be turned unless you gouge them.
> When you hear metal on metal, it’s too late and turning will be needed. Most
> shops charge about $7 or so to turn a rotor for you if you want to do that
> separately.

> -Bill

> "Ryan" <ridinh…@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:8gcsi2$shg$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net…
> > I work at a dealership… they just charge alot.. thats about it… you
> can
> > do it yourself alot cheaper.
> > Robert Leonard III <stunt…@koan.com> wrote in message
> > news:siav2ferius27@corp.supernews.com…
> > > My 4Runner needs new pads and the rotors turned.. I just called Toyota
> and
> > > they want $340 to do it!!!  Is there something I’m missing?  Can’t I
> just
> > > buy some pads, take the rotors down and have them turned someplace… is
> > > there really so much work to this that they can reasonably charge that
> > > much??

> > > Thanks for your thoughts!

]]> By: admin http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase/comment-page-1#comment-1177 admin Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:02:39 +0000 http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase#comment-1177 <p>Robert Leonard III wrote: <br /> > My 4Runner needs new pads and the rotors turned.. I just called Toyota and <br /> > they want $340 to do it!!!  Is there something I'm missing?  Can't I just <br /> > buy some pads, take the rotors down and have them turned someplace... is <br /> > there really so much work to this that they can reasonably charge that <br /> > much?? <br /> </p><p>> Thanks for your thoughts! <br /> <br />I forgot to mention that you have to take apart the hub to get the rotor off. <br /> </p><p>-- <br /> __________________________________ <br /> Please remove "X" from email address to reply. <br /> </p> Robert Leonard III wrote:
> My 4Runner needs new pads and the rotors turned.. I just called Toyota and
> they want $340 to do it!!!  Is there something I’m missing?  Can’t I just
> buy some pads, take the rotors down and have them turned someplace… is
> there really so much work to this that they can reasonably charge that
> much??

> Thanks for your thoughts!

I forgot to mention that you have to take apart the hub to get the rotor off.

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]]> By: admin http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase/comment-page-1#comment-1178 admin Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:02:39 +0000 http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase#comment-1178 I work at a dealership... they just charge alot.. thats about it... you can <br /> do it yourself alot cheaper. <br /> Robert Leonard III <stunt...@koan.com> wrote in message <br /> news:siav2ferius27@corp.supernews.com... <br /> <p>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -</p>> My 4Runner needs new pads and the rotors turned.. I just called Toyota and <br /> > they want $340 to do it!!!  Is there something I'm missing?  Can't I just <br /> > buy some pads, take the rotors down and have them turned someplace... is <br /> > there really so much work to this that they can reasonably charge that <br /> > much?? <br /> <p>> Thanks for your thoughts! <br /> <br /> </p> I work at a dealership… they just charge alot.. thats about it… you can
do it yourself alot cheaper.
Robert Leonard III <stunt…@koan.com> wrote in message
news:siav2ferius27@corp.supernews.com…

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> My 4Runner needs new pads and the rotors turned.. I just called Toyota and
> they want $340 to do it!!!  Is there something I’m missing?  Can’t I just
> buy some pads, take the rotors down and have them turned someplace… is
> there really so much work to this that they can reasonably charge that
> much??

> Thanks for your thoughts!

]]> By: admin http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase/comment-page-1#comment-1175 admin Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:02:38 +0000 http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase#comment-1175 <p>Robert Leonard III wrote: <br /> </p><p>> My 4Runner needs new pads and the rotors turned.. I just called Toyota and <br /> > they want $340 to do it!!!  Is there something I'm missing?  Can't I just <br /> > buy some pads, take the rotors down and have them turned someplace... is <br /> > there really so much work to this that they can reasonably charge that <br /> > much?? <br /> </p><p>> Thanks for your thoughts! <br /> <br />We do charge $149 on these 4WD's, that includes new pad and machining <br /> rotors plus the inspection stuff. We try to be more competitive <br /> -- <br /> </p><p>                          *** Rick Jones *** <br />    Toyota Chat Room!-- http://members.xoom.com/ssauer40/chat.html <br /> </p><p>          Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician/ASE Master/L-1 <br />               http://pweb.netcom.com/~ssauer40/webpage.htm <br />       "SECOND PAGE" http://pweb.netcom.com/~ssauer40/second.html <br /> ********************************************************************* <br />           What it takes to be a modern day liberal democrat! <br /> </p><p>You believe that the AIDS virus is spread by lack of funding; trial <br /> lawyers are selfless heroes and doctors are overpaid; you believe guns <br /> in the hands of law abiding Americans are more of a threat than nuclear <br /> weapons in the hands of the Red Chinese; global temperatures are less <br /> affected by cyclical documented changes in the sun and more affected by <br /> SUV's; you believe business creates oppression and governments create <br /> prosperity; the military, not corrupt politicians start wars; there was <br /> no art before federal funding; the NRA is bad because it stands up for <br /> certain parts of the constitution, while the ACLU is good because it <br /> stands up for certain parts of the constitution; you believe Tubman, <br /> Chavez and Steinem are more important to American history than <br /> Jefferson, Washington and Edison; you believe conservatives are racist, <br /> yet think minorities couldn't make it without your help; you believe <br /> socialism hasn't worked yet because the right people haven't been in <br /> charge yet; self esteem is more important than actually doing something <br /> to earn it; and finally, you are against capital punishment, but for <br /> abortion on demand, in short,you support protecting the guilty, while <br /> killing the innocent! <br /> </p> Robert Leonard III wrote:

> My 4Runner needs new pads and the rotors turned.. I just called Toyota and
> they want $340 to do it!!!  Is there something I’m missing?  Can’t I just
> buy some pads, take the rotors down and have them turned someplace… is
> there really so much work to this that they can reasonably charge that
> much??

> Thanks for your thoughts!

We do charge $149 on these 4WD’s, that includes new pad and machining
rotors plus the inspection stuff. We try to be more competitive
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You believe that the AIDS virus is spread by lack of funding; trial
lawyers are selfless heroes and doctors are overpaid; you believe guns
in the hands of law abiding Americans are more of a threat than nuclear
weapons in the hands of the Red Chinese; global temperatures are less
affected by cyclical documented changes in the sun and more affected by
SUV’s; you believe business creates oppression and governments create
prosperity; the military, not corrupt politicians start wars; there was
no art before federal funding; the NRA is bad because it stands up for
certain parts of the constitution, while the ACLU is good because it
stands up for certain parts of the constitution; you believe Tubman,
Chavez and Steinem are more important to American history than
Jefferson, Washington and Edison; you believe conservatives are racist,
yet think minorities couldn’t make it without your help; you believe
socialism hasn’t worked yet because the right people haven’t been in
charge yet; self esteem is more important than actually doing something
to earn it; and finally, you are against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short,you support protecting the guilty, while
killing the innocent!

]]> By: admin http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase/comment-page-1#comment-1176 admin Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:02:38 +0000 http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase#comment-1176 <p>Robert Leonard III wrote: <br /> > My 4Runner needs new pads and the rotors turned.. I just called Toyota and <br /> > they want $340 to do it!!!  Is there something I'm missing?  Can't I just <br /> > buy some pads, take the rotors down and have them turned someplace... is <br /> > there really so much work to this that they can reasonably charge that <br /> > much?? <br /> </p><p>> Thanks for your thoughts! <br /> <br />Why would you go to the dealer and not a brake shop?  Chances are however, you <br /> will need new rotors.  Still, I had replaced 4 pads, 2 rotors and two calipers <br /> for about that much money. <br /> </p><p>-- <br /> __________________________________ <br /> Please remove "X" from email address to reply. <br /> </p> Robert Leonard III wrote:
> My 4Runner needs new pads and the rotors turned.. I just called Toyota and
> they want $340 to do it!!!  Is there something I’m missing?  Can’t I just
> buy some pads, take the rotors down and have them turned someplace… is
> there really so much work to this that they can reasonably charge that
> much??

> Thanks for your thoughts!

Why would you go to the dealer and not a brake shop?  Chances are however, you
will need new rotors.  Still, I had replaced 4 pads, 2 rotors and two calipers
for about that much money.

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]]> By: admin http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase/comment-page-1#comment-1173 admin Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:02:36 +0000 http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase#comment-1173 In article <8g43r3$m0...@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <br /> Charles.K.Sc...@dartmouth.edu (Charles K. Scott) writes: <br /> <p>> That <br /> > also depends on how the rotors are mounted to the wheel hub.  If it <br /> > just slides on over the studs and is held in place by the wheel then <br /> > it's problematic to turn because it's difficult to mount on the brake <br /> > lathe such that it is true to how it's mounted on the wheel.  You could <br /> > turn the rotor and have it wobble (runnout) on the wheel. <br /> <br />I wanted to add that this was the way it was when I was still a <br /> mechanic in 1982.  For all I know there are mounting plates available <br /> now that make turning this type of rotor easy and routine. <br /> </p><p>Corky Scott <br /> </p> In article <8g43r3$m0…@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU>
Charles.K.Sc…@dartmouth.edu (Charles K. Scott) writes:

> That
> also depends on how the rotors are mounted to the wheel hub.  If it
> just slides on over the studs and is held in place by the wheel then
> it’s problematic to turn because it’s difficult to mount on the brake
> lathe such that it is true to how it’s mounted on the wheel.  You could
> turn the rotor and have it wobble (runnout) on the wheel.

I wanted to add that this was the way it was when I was still a
mechanic in 1982.  For all I know there are mounting plates available
now that make turning this type of rotor easy and routine.

Corky Scott

]]> By: admin http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase/comment-page-1#comment-1174 admin Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:02:36 +0000 http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase#comment-1174 <p>Robert Leonard III wrote: <br /> </p><p>> My 4Runner needs new pads and the rotors turned.. I just called Toyota and <br /> > they want $340 to do it!!!  Is there something I'm missing?  Can't I just <br /> > buy some pads, take the rotors down and have them turned someplace... is <br /> > there really so much work to this that they can reasonably charge that <br /> > much?? <br /> </p><p>> Thanks for your thoughts! <br /> <br />Yeah, just "pop" them off, turn them, pop them back on, "snap" in the <br /> pads, you on yer way! <br /> </p><p>                          *** Rick Jones *** <br />    Toyota Chat Room!-- http://members.xoom.com/ssauer40/chat.html <br /> </p><p>          Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician/ASE Master/L-1 <br />               http://pweb.netcom.com/~ssauer40/webpage.htm <br />       "SECOND PAGE" http://pweb.netcom.com/~ssauer40/second.html <br /> ********************************************************************* <br />           What it takes to be a modern day liberal democrat! <br /> </p><p>You believe that the AIDS virus is spread by lack of funding; trial <br /> lawyers are selfless heroes and doctors are overpaid; you believe guns <br /> in the hands of law abiding Americans are more of a threat than nuclear <br /> weapons in the hands of the Red Chinese; global temperatures are less <br /> affected by cyclical documented changes in the sun and more affected by <br /> SUV's; you believe business creates oppression and governments create <br /> prosperity; the military, not corrupt politicians start wars; there was <br /> no art before federal funding; the NRA is bad because it stands up for <br /> certain parts of the constitution, while the ACLU is good because it <br /> stands up for certain parts of the constitution; you believe Tubman, <br /> Chavez and Steinem are more important to American history than <br /> Jefferson, Washington and Edison; you believe conservatives are racist, <br /> yet think minorities couldn't make it without your help; you believe <br /> socialism hasn't worked yet because the right people haven't been in <br /> charge yet; self esteem is more important than actually doing something <br /> to earn it; and finally, you are against capital punishment, but for <br /> abortion on demand, in short,you support protecting the guilty, while <br /> killing the innocent! <br /> </p> Robert Leonard III wrote:

> My 4Runner needs new pads and the rotors turned.. I just called Toyota and
> they want $340 to do it!!!  Is there something I’m missing?  Can’t I just
> buy some pads, take the rotors down and have them turned someplace… is
> there really so much work to this that they can reasonably charge that
> much??

> Thanks for your thoughts!

Yeah, just "pop" them off, turn them, pop them back on, "snap" in the
pads, you on yer way!

                          *** Rick Jones ***
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      "SECOND PAGE" http://pweb.netcom.com/~ssauer40/second.html
*********************************************************************
          What it takes to be a modern day liberal democrat!

You believe that the AIDS virus is spread by lack of funding; trial
lawyers are selfless heroes and doctors are overpaid; you believe guns
in the hands of law abiding Americans are more of a threat than nuclear
weapons in the hands of the Red Chinese; global temperatures are less
affected by cyclical documented changes in the sun and more affected by
SUV’s; you believe business creates oppression and governments create
prosperity; the military, not corrupt politicians start wars; there was
no art before federal funding; the NRA is bad because it stands up for
certain parts of the constitution, while the ACLU is good because it
stands up for certain parts of the constitution; you believe Tubman,
Chavez and Steinem are more important to American history than
Jefferson, Washington and Edison; you believe conservatives are racist,
yet think minorities couldn’t make it without your help; you believe
socialism hasn’t worked yet because the right people haven’t been in
charge yet; self esteem is more important than actually doing something
to earn it; and finally, you are against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short,you support protecting the guilty, while
killing the innocent!

]]> By: admin http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase/comment-page-1#comment-1172 admin Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:02:35 +0000 http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase#comment-1172 In article <siav2feriu...@corp.supernews.com> <br /> "Robert Leonard III" <stunt...@koan.com> writes: <br /> <p>> My 4Runner needs new pads and the rotors turned.. I just called Toyota and <br /> > they want $340 to do it!!!  Is there something I'm missing?  Can't I just <br /> > buy some pads, take the rotors down and have them turned someplace... is <br /> > there really so much work to this that they can reasonably charge that <br /> > much?? <br /> </p><p>> Thanks for your thoughts! <br /> <br />Any competant mechanic can turn rotors if he has the equipment.  That <br /> also depends on how the rotors are mounted to the wheel hub.  If it <br /> just slides on over the studs and is held in place by the wheel then <br /> it's problematic to turn because it's difficult to mount on the brake <br /> lathe such that it is true to how it's mounted on the wheel.  You could <br /> turn the rotor and have it wobble (runnout) on the wheel. <br /> </p><p>Before I left the profession there were machines just coming out that <br /> you could hook right up to the rotor while bolted to the hub and turn <br /> them in place.  These machines weren't cheap. <br /> </p><p>Another possibility is to look into replacement rotors from a source <br /> other than Toyota and slap those guys on yourself.  Like I said, if the <br /> rotors just slide in place (after you've removed the brake caliper of <br /> course), then it's an easy job to handle.  The Tacoma I have appears to <br /> have this type but I have not inspected the brakes carefully yet. <br /> Don't have to, the dealership overhauled them before I bought the <br /> truck. <br /> </p><p>But installing brake pads and turning rotors is one of the things any <br /> mechanic can do without needing factory training or Toyota equipment. <br /> Just shop around and see who gives you the best price if you are averse <br /> to doing it yourself. <br /> </p><p>Corky Scott <br /> </p> In article <siav2feriu…@corp.supernews.com>
"Robert Leonard III" <stunt…@koan.com> writes:

> My 4Runner needs new pads and the rotors turned.. I just called Toyota and
> they want $340 to do it!!!  Is there something I’m missing?  Can’t I just
> buy some pads, take the rotors down and have them turned someplace… is
> there really so much work to this that they can reasonably charge that
> much??

> Thanks for your thoughts!

Any competant mechanic can turn rotors if he has the equipment.  That
also depends on how the rotors are mounted to the wheel hub.  If it
just slides on over the studs and is held in place by the wheel then
it’s problematic to turn because it’s difficult to mount on the brake
lathe such that it is true to how it’s mounted on the wheel.  You could
turn the rotor and have it wobble (runnout) on the wheel.

Before I left the profession there were machines just coming out that
you could hook right up to the rotor while bolted to the hub and turn
them in place.  These machines weren’t cheap.

Another possibility is to look into replacement rotors from a source
other than Toyota and slap those guys on yourself.  Like I said, if the
rotors just slide in place (after you’ve removed the brake caliper of
course), then it’s an easy job to handle.  The Tacoma I have appears to
have this type but I have not inspected the brakes carefully yet.
Don’t have to, the dealership overhauled them before I bought the
truck.

But installing brake pads and turning rotors is one of the things any
mechanic can do without needing factory training or Toyota equipment.
Just shop around and see who gives you the best price if you are averse
to doing it yourself.

Corky Scott

]]> By: admin http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase/comment-page-1#comment-1171 admin Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:02:18 +0000 http://www.toyotatrucksclub.com/4-runner-purchase#comment-1171 Also the '98 and newer models dropped the floorpan so the step up height is <br /> less. This is a major selling point for me to consider only the '98 or newer <br /> models. <br /> <p>-Bill <br /> </p><p>"Annon" <EMail_Addr_is@My_Website.Spam_Deterrent> wrote in message <br /> <br />news:9a6W4.18931$T41.434512@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net... <br /> </p><p>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -</p>> I have heard that the first couple of years had some suspension bugs. How <br /> > serious they were I don't know. They remained pretty unchanged throught <br /> the <br /> > years. Some came with 15" wheels and some with 16". The aluminum wheels <br /> look <br /> > very similar in both sizes. The models with 16" wheels came with bigger <br /> > brakes. Go with the V6. Wind resistance is the bigger killer of mpg than <br /> > motor size. Obviously 2wd/4wd is a decision too. From you post it appears <br /> > you are not considering the Limited which has some other features as well. <br /> > Manuals are tough to find these days but the auto is pretty good. Creature <br /> > features are pretty standard on the SR5. <br /> <p>> -- <br /> > Lars <br /> > http://www.larsdennert.com <br /> > Fritz wrote in message <br /> <br /><190520001818308645%bangzoomNOS...@compuserve.com>... <br /> </p><p>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -</p>> >I¹m thinking about buying a 4 runner used, some where between 96 and <br /> > >2K.  I assume that the V6-SR5 is the way to go.  I can¹t imagine the 4 <br /> > >having enough omph for hiway and AC.  Any other items too look for or <br /> > >better years?  I assume it can be had manual? <br /> <p>> >Thanks, <br /> > > Fritz <br /> <br /> </p> Also the ’98 and newer models dropped the floorpan so the step up height is
less. This is a major selling point for me to consider only the ’98 or newer
models.

-Bill

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> I have heard that the first couple of years had some suspension bugs. How
> serious they were I don’t know. They remained pretty unchanged throught
the
> years. Some came with 15" wheels and some with 16". The aluminum wheels
look
> very similar in both sizes. The models with 16" wheels came with bigger
> brakes. Go with the V6. Wind resistance is the bigger killer of mpg than
> motor size. Obviously 2wd/4wd is a decision too. From you post it appears
> you are not considering the Limited which has some other features as well.
> Manuals are tough to find these days but the auto is pretty good. Creature
> features are pretty standard on the SR5.

> —
> Lars
> http://www.larsdennert.com
> Fritz wrote in message

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> >I¹m thinking about buying a 4 runner used, some where between 96 and
> >2K.  I assume that the V6-SR5 is the way to go.  I can¹t imagine the 4
> >having enough omph for hiway and AC.  Any other items too look for or
> >better years?  I assume it can be had manual?

> >Thanks,
> > Fritz

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