Has anyone experienced the difference made by replacing the Stock Air
Intake system with the K&N Off-Road Air Charger? It’s not Immisions Legal
but They say it adds 26hp. Not bad bot 200 bucks or whatever the kit
costs.
27
Mar
K&N AirCharger
Marleau,
I replaced the stock intake system on my 2000 Tacoma 4×4 v6 with the K&N
Fuel Injection Performance Kit (FIPK). I’ve not heard of their "Off-Road
Air Charger" and am assuming that you mean the FIPK. The FIPK is now street
legal in 50 states. Perhaps they sold it in your state previously by the
other name because it was not street legal then.
Anyway, I noticed an immediate change in my truck. I have not dyno’d it or
anything so the change is measured by the seat of my pants. The engine
rev’s more quickly to red-line and she seems to jump off the start line more
quickly. I am guessing that the freeer breathing has translated into about
1 to 1.5mpg more than before the change.
Only two weeks previously, I spent $200.00 to replace the exhaust system
from the cat back with a pipe that is 1/4 inch larger in diameter and a
muffler that is free-flowing. That, in conjunction with the FIPK have added
about 3 to 4 mpg and a noticible kick in the pants. I got the FIPK for
$195.00 from Performance Products and it took about 45 minutes to install.
Hope that helps,
Dan K.
Colorado Sierra, CO
"Marleau Belanger" <mar…@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Has anyone experienced the difference made by replacing the Stock Air
> Intake system with the K&N Off-Road Air Charger? It’s not Immisions Legal
> but They say it adds 26hp. Not bad bot 200 bucks or whatever the kit
> costs.
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"they" say +26HP from FIPK, but you MUST ask "them" what the setup was that
"they" realized +26HP from just a air filter change.
the straighter the better, BUT, for $1.39 (cost for PVC) i probably am real
close to what a FIPK does. check out the "Let Your 2.7L Breathe Easier"
article at http://www.customtacos.com/tech
i did one extra mod to the intake PVC mod. i added some director plates at
the end of my PVC so that the air mass will be directed up into the bottom
of the filter, helping to keep air mass velocity up as it enters the filter
surface (otherwise, the 2 air masses will collide head on as they enter the
air box, reducing velocity). these directors were made from aluminum flat
stock and embedded into the end of the PVC on about a 40 degree angle. this
also helps to pick up the air mass coming from the cold intake to give it
some more velocity (helps to change its direction).
HOWEVER, the FIPK and the mod are not cold air intake solutions, and some of
the extra performance will be negated by ingesting hot air from the engine
compartment.
"Marleau Belanger" <mar…@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Has anyone experienced the difference made by replacing the Stock Air
> Intake system with the K&N Off-Road Air Charger? It’s not Immisions Legal
> but They say it adds 26hp. Not bad bot 200 bucks or whatever the kit
> costs.
i forgot to mention, i use the K&N 33-2050 filter in place of oem or other
brands. it lasts a long time and has considerable flow improvements.
"andrew steffek" <astef…@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> "they" say +26HP from FIPK, but you MUST ask "them" what the setup was
that
> "they" realized +26HP from just a air filter change.
> the straighter the better, BUT, for $1.39 (cost for PVC) i probably am
real
> close to what a FIPK does. check out the "Let Your 2.7L Breathe Easier"
> article at http://www.customtacos.com/tech
> i did one extra mod to the intake PVC mod. i added some director plates at
> the end of my PVC so that the air mass will be directed up into the bottom
> of the filter, helping to keep air mass velocity up as it enters the
filter
> surface (otherwise, the 2 air masses will collide head on as they enter
the
> air box, reducing velocity). these directors were made from aluminum flat
> stock and embedded into the end of the PVC on about a 40 degree angle.
this
> also helps to pick up the air mass coming from the cold intake to give it
> some more velocity (helps to change its direction).
> HOWEVER, the FIPK and the mod are not cold air intake solutions, and some
of
> the extra performance will be negated by ingesting hot air from the engine
> compartment.
> "Marleau Belanger" <mar…@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:iYre8.140568$Cg5.8066491@news1.calgary.shaw.ca…
> > Has anyone experienced the difference made by replacing the Stock
Air
> > Intake system with the K&N Off-Road Air Charger? It’s not Immisions
Legal
> > but They say it adds 26hp. Not bad bot 200 bucks or whatever the kit
> > costs.
Ok here is the skinny.
Track tested at the drag strip essentially NO Change!!
DUH !!! It is all HYPE.
K&N is Great for the reusability of their filers. That is all they will do
for you.
But give you more POWER??? You will get just as much as if you install clear
tail lights. NONE
"Marleau Belanger" <mar…@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Has anyone experienced the difference made by replacing the Stock Air
> Intake system with the K&N Off-Road Air Charger? It’s not Immisions Legal
> but They say it adds 26hp. Not bad bot 200 bucks or whatever the kit
> costs.
the K&N stuff helps, but probably not noticable on its’ own.
lets show a quick ratio comparison.
K&N FIPK Kit approx $200 for, lets be modest, 26HP gain
that’s $7.69 per HP. ($20 per HP if you got 10HP out of it).
my PVC mod to the air box, $3 (includes PVC and silicone), good for maybe
3HP max
that’s $1 per HP
K&N costing you 7 times more for HP gains you won’t see.
it would be better if K&N ranks their product by %HP increase, this way it
is all relative to the engine. so if FIPK gives a 3% increase in HP, then on
a 250HP engine the HP gains would be +7.5HP, but on my 150HP 3Rz engine, i
would only get +4.5HP. stating that their Dodge continuously showed +26HP on
the dyno doesn’t mean much without other data.
"Bought4Less" <airandso…@excite.com> wrote in message
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> Ok here is the skinny.
> Track tested at the drag strip essentially NO Change!!
> DUH !!! It is all HYPE.
> K&N is Great for the reusability of their filers. That is all they will do
> for you.
> But give you more POWER??? You will get just as much as if you install
clear
> tail lights. NONE
> "Marleau Belanger" <mar…@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:iYre8.140568$Cg5.8066491@news1.calgary.shaw.ca…
> > Has anyone experienced the difference made by replacing the Stock
Air
> > Intake system with the K&N Off-Road Air Charger? It’s not Immisions
Legal
> > but They say it adds 26hp. Not bad bot 200 bucks or whatever the kit
> > costs.
Marleau Belanger,
If you dig a little deeper in K&N’s web site they have a pdf document that
tells you what horsepower to expect with this kit for your specific car.
Only a few cars get +26HP. For my 90 4-runner it was 5HP. Not worth it.
Greg
"Marleau Belanger" <mar…@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Has anyone experienced the difference made by replacing the Stock Air
> Intake system with the K&N Off-Road Air Charger? It’s not Immisions Legal
> but They say it adds 26hp. Not bad bot 200 bucks or whatever the kit
> costs.
Well, can’t speak for Toyotas, but the K&N based funnel kits I put on my
Honda Accord and Nissan 240SX both gave big horsepower boosts as measured in
0-60 and 60-80 (top gear) tests. These were not the FIPK’s, they were 3rd
party arrangements. The Nissan 240 became a real sleeper with this and a
later Wolf chip (Borla cat back exhaust did very little, took a little off
the low end but boosted the top end–measured no net change.) No problems
after 5 or 6 years on each with plenty of time in the high rpm region…
Results will vary depending on the make of vehicle and the kit, of course.
Some models might not benefit at all. YMMV
"Bought4Less" <airandso…@excite.com> wrote in message
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> Ok here is the skinny.
> Track tested at the drag strip essentially NO Change!!
> DUH !!! It is all HYPE.
> K&N is Great for the reusability of their filers. That is all they will do
> for you.
> But give you more POWER??? You will get just as much as if you install
clear
> tail lights. NONE
> "Marleau Belanger" <mar…@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:iYre8.140568$Cg5.8066491@news1.calgary.shaw.ca…
> > Has anyone experienced the difference made by replacing the Stock
Air
> > Intake system with the K&N Off-Road Air Charger? It’s not Immisions
Legal
> > but They say it adds 26hp. Not bad bot 200 bucks or whatever the kit
> > costs.
Greg,
I found the part number pdf for my 95.5 Tacoma V6 4WD (57-9013) but I can
not seem to find the pdf doc you mentioned regarding the horsepower one can
‘expect’… if you know where that is can you reply with a link please?
tia,
david.
"Greg Tumbush" <gtumb…@astekcorp.com> wrote in message
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> Marleau Belanger,
> If you dig a little deeper in K&N’s web site they have a pdf document
that
> tells you what horsepower to expect with this kit for your specific car.
> Only a few cars get +26HP. For my 90 4-runner it was 5HP. Not worth it.
> Greg
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To anyone who went looking for this link. I swear it was there. It used
to be in the chart on http://www.knfilters.com/fipkinstr.htm but I don’t see
it anymore. You’ll see that on page http://www.knfilters.com/fipk.htm it
says see the above link for typical power gains. I just don’t see it
anymore. I would e-mail them. It looks like the information was moved.
Does anyone know where it went or does anyone have the info?
Greg
"Greg Tumbush" <gtumb…@astekcorp.com> wrote in message
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> Marleau Belanger,
> If you dig a little deeper in K&N’s web site they have a pdf document
that
> tells you what horsepower to expect with this kit for your specific car.
> Only a few cars get +26HP. For my 90 4-runner it was 5HP. Not worth it.
> Greg
> "Marleau Belanger" <mar…@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:iYre8.140568$Cg5.8066491@news1.calgary.shaw.ca…
> > Has anyone experienced the difference made by replacing the Stock
Air
> > Intake system with the K&N Off-Road Air Charger? It’s not Immisions
Legal
> > but They say it adds 26hp. Not bad bot 200 bucks or whatever the kit
> > costs.
I just bought the Aircharger K&N and I felt an immediate ‘difference’ but
without a ‘guage’ to measure by I can not give you a ‘number’. I can say
that I can now drive up the mountain in 4th gear whereas I was stuck using
3rd or I’d lag the engine in 4th (before the swap).
The Aircharger is the drop-in filter (keeping the factory air box).
d.
95.5 Tacoma xcab 4wd (192k, original clutch)
k&n aircharger
bilstein shocks
"Marleau Belanger" <mar…@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Has anyone experienced the difference made by replacing the Stock Air
> Intake system with the K&N Off-Road Air Charger? It’s not Immisions Legal
> but They say it adds 26hp. Not bad bot 200 bucks or whatever the kit
> costs.
Many people are refering to the FIPK which I guess is 57-9013 but I’m
talking about the Air Charger Pt # 63-1015. Is it virtually the same thing?
"dmorris" <dmor…@shentel.net> wrote in message
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> Greg,
> I found the part number pdf for my 95.5 Tacoma V6 4WD (57-9013) but I can
> not seem to find the pdf doc you mentioned regarding the horsepower one
can
> ‘expect’… if you know where that is can you reply with a link please?
> tia,
> david.
> "Greg Tumbush" <gtumb…@astekcorp.com> wrote in message
> news:zOQe8.513$pR3.144791@news.uswest.net…
> > Marleau Belanger,
> > If you dig a little deeper in K&N’s web site they have a pdf document
> that
> > tells you what horsepower to expect with this kit for your specific car.
> > Only a few cars get +26HP. For my 90 4-runner it was 5HP. Not worth
it.
> > Greg
> —-<snip>—-