I’m looking to sell my ’84 Truck and wonder what it’s worth. It’s got 215K
miles on it but seems to be very sound mechanically. New clutch, differential
pinion bearing and rear wheel bearings at about 150K. Also had all the synchros
and bearings replaced in the transmission (5-speed manual) about the same time.
New brakes all around at 200K. Paint’s not too hot anymore but other than
that it’s in decent shape. Any input appreciated.
Jeff Bertrand
Ventura, CA
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> I’m looking to sell my ’84 Truck and wonder what it’s worth. It’s got
215K
> miles on it but seems to be very sound mechanically. New clutch,
differential
> pinion bearing and rear wheel bearings at about 150K. Also had all the
synchros
> and bearings replaced in the transmission (5-speed manual) about the same
time.
> New brakes all around at 200K. Paint’s not too hot anymore but other
than
> that it’s in decent shape. Any input appreciated.
> Jeff Bertrand
> Ventura, CA
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Sounds like maybe $9500 would be fair. I’ll give ya $9000.
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Jeff Bertrand wrote:
> I’m looking to sell my ’84 Truck and wonder what it’s worth. It’s got 215K
> miles on it but seems to be very sound mechanically. New clutch, differential
> pinion bearing and rear wheel bearings at about 150K. Also had all the synchros
> and bearings replaced in the transmission (5-speed manual) about the same time.
> New brakes all around at 200K. Paint’s not too hot anymore but other than
> that it’s in decent shape. Any input appreciated.
> Jeff Bertrand
> Ventura, CA
> (remove antispam to reply)
SOLD!!! ;^)
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>Sounds like maybe $9500 would be fair. I’ll give ya $9000.
>Jeff Bertrand wrote:
>> I’m looking to sell my ’84 Truck and wonder what it’s worth. It’s got 215K
>> miles on it but seems to be very sound mechanically. New clutch,
>differential
>> pinion bearing and rear wheel bearings at about 150K. Also had all the
>synchros
>> and bearings replaced in the transmission (5-speed manual) about the same
>time.
>> New brakes all around at 200K. Paint’s not too hot anymore but other than
>> that it’s in decent shape. Any input appreciated.
>> Jeff Bertrand
>> Ventura, CA
>> (remove antispam to reply)
Jeff Bertrand
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Far higher. You are talking a great deal of hardware to do this conversion.
It’s probably cheaper to trade up. : )
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> Just bought a 2002 Tacoma without ABS (the one on the lot had all I wanted
> but the ABS). Is it possible to add this on afterwards? Is it just another
> control module or are there alot of hardware pieces missing (e.g. new
master
> cylinder, tire rotation sensors)?
> Has anyone done this and what did it cost? I suspect higher than the $300
> option.
> George
I bought a 2002 with ABS. The 2003′s will come with ABS standard.
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> Far higher. You are talking a great deal of hardware to do this
conversion.
> It’s probably cheaper to trade up. : )
> "Geo Spatz" <gsp…@ameritech.nospam.net> wrote in message
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> > Just bought a 2002 Tacoma without ABS (the one on the lot had all I
wanted
> > but the ABS). Is it possible to add this on afterwards? Is it just
another
> > control module or are there alot of hardware pieces missing (e.g. new
> master
> > cylinder, tire rotation sensors)?
> > Has anyone done this and what did it cost? I suspect higher than the
$300
> > option.
> > George
what would be the purpose? Why would anyone want it in a 4×4?
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> I bought a 2002 with ABS. The 2003′s will come with ABS standard.
> "greg.jensen" <greg.jen…@attbi.com> wrote in message
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> > Far higher. You are talking a great deal of hardware to do this
> conversion.
> > It’s probably cheaper to trade up. : )
> > "Geo Spatz" <gsp…@ameritech.nospam.net> wrote in message
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> > > Just bought a 2002 Tacoma without ABS (the one on the lot had all I
> wanted
> > > but the ABS). Is it possible to add this on afterwards? Is it just
> another
> > > control module or are there alot of hardware pieces missing (e.g. new
> > master
> > > cylinder, tire rotation sensors)?
> > > Has anyone done this and what did it cost? I suspect higher than the
> $300
> > > option.
> > > George
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> what would be the purpose? Why would anyone want it in a 4×4?
This oughta be worth watching…heh
I won’t waste my time.
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> "nixon" <SpamF…@spam.com> wrote in
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> > what would be the purpose? Why would anyone want it in a 4×4?
> This oughta be worth watching…heh
On Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:31:48 GMT, someone who calls themselves me
<m…@home.net> wrote:
>"nixon" <SpamF…@spam.com> wrote in
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>> what would be the purpose? Why would anyone want it in a 4×4?
>This oughta be worth watching…heh
Yes, it could get interesting. And would everyone else in the
thread already please note that I’m replying here rather than try to
repair that train-wreck of top-posting so it can be read sensibly.
The answer to a question is supposed to be typed at the bottom of
the post, or BELOW the question if you want to answer each paragraph
separately. Question, then Answer. Question, then Answer. This is a
Usenet newsgroup, NOT "Jeopardy", and I ain’t Alex Trebek… ;-P
….
Now then, ABS can be useful on a 4WD because most do not come with
locking axles or a locking center differential on full-time AWD cars.
The 4WD won’t act to distribute the braking forces, and one wheel can
lock easier on soft dirt or sand.
On normal paved streets, your best braking is just before lockup,
where the ABS helps best, but when you are offroad you may do /far/
better by locking the tires and pushing the sand or snow ahead of the
locked wheels – you really need to be able to turn the ABS off
manually with a dashboard switch when in 4WD, or while driving a 2WD
car in snow or ice conditions. A few cars allow this, but most don’t.
After you have manual control, you have to have a well calibrated
braking foot, and do a ‘spot check’ of the available traction
conditions to see if deliberately locking up will slow you down any
faster. Hopefully /before/ finding out during a panic stop.
ABS is really there for the occasional driver or "Mommy Van" pilot,
someone who doesn’t have fine control over their brake foot, and can’t
drive by the seat of their pants – they don’t know or care about
vehicle dynamics, they just want to just mash the brake pedal to the
floor and stop.
In the old days a mash-the-brakes panic stop in less than perfect
conditions would be a recipe for a locked-wheel spin or skid, or they
lose steering control and plow right into the obstruction, but ABS
will save their ass.
–<< Bruce >>–
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Bruce,
That was beautiful! I hope this is in the right spot.
George
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> On Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:31:48 GMT, someone who calls themselves me
> <m…@home.net> wrote:
> >"nixon" <SpamF…@spam.com> wrote in
> >news:JSAd9.48917$Ic7.3664922@news2.west.cox.net:
> >> what would be the purpose? Why would anyone want it in a 4×4?
> >This oughta be worth watching…heh
> Yes, it could get interesting. And would everyone else in the
> thread already please note that I’m replying here rather than try to
> repair that train-wreck of top-posting so it can be read sensibly.
> The answer to a question is supposed to be typed at the bottom of
> the post, or BELOW the question if you want to answer each paragraph
> separately. Question, then Answer. Question, then Answer. This is a
> Usenet newsgroup, NOT "Jeopardy", and I ain’t Alex Trebek… ;-P
> ….
> Now then, ABS can be useful on a 4WD because most do not come with
> locking axles or a locking center differential on full-time AWD cars.
> The 4WD won’t act to distribute the braking forces, and one wheel can
> lock easier on soft dirt or sand.
> On normal paved streets, your best braking is just before lockup,
> where the ABS helps best, but when you are offroad you may do /far/
> better by locking the tires and pushing the sand or snow ahead of the
> locked wheels – you really need to be able to turn the ABS off
> manually with a dashboard switch when in 4WD, or while driving a 2WD
> car in snow or ice conditions. A few cars allow this, but most don’t.
> After you have manual control, you have to have a well calibrated
> braking foot, and do a ‘spot check’ of the available traction
> conditions to see if deliberately locking up will slow you down any
> faster. Hopefully /before/ finding out during a panic stop.
> ABS is really there for the occasional driver or "Mommy Van" pilot,
> someone who doesn’t have fine control over their brake foot, and can’t
> drive by the seat of their pants – they don’t know or care about
> vehicle dynamics, they just want to just mash the brake pedal to the
> floor and stop.
> In the old days a mash-the-brakes panic stop in less than perfect
> conditions would be a recipe for a locked-wheel spin or skid, or they
> lose steering control and plow right into the obstruction, but ABS
> will save their ass.
> –<< Bruce >>–
> —
> Bruce L. Bergman, POB 394, Woodland Hills CA 91365, USA
> Electrician, Westend Electric (#726700) Agoura, CA
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> After you have manual control, you have to have a well calibrated
> braking foot, and do a ‘spot check’ of the available traction
> conditions to see if deliberately locking up will slow you down any
> faster. Hopefully /before/ finding out during a panic stop.
Spot check? You mean the way any GOOD driver would always drive on a snowy
This ABS brainwashing has gone so far that insurance companies now
day?
offer discounts for it. Gag me.
Doug
Is it a 300$ option?
Only if you have the power option already. It can’t just be purchased as a
stand alone, it requires another package as a prerequisite. For me, it
would have been a 1500$+ option.
Dave
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> Just bought a 2002 Tacoma without ABS (the one on the lot had all I wanted
> but the ABS). Is it possible to add this on afterwards? Is it just another
> control module or are there alot of hardware pieces missing (e.g. new
master
> cylinder, tire rotation sensors)?
> Has anyone done this and what did it cost? I suspect higher than the $300
> option.
> George
On Mon, 09 Sep 2002 17:40:27 GMT, someone who calls themselves "Doug
Kanter" <dougkan…@earthlink.net> wrote:
>"Bruce L. Bergman" <blpythonberg…@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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>> After you have manual control, you have to have a well calibrated
>> braking foot, and do a ‘spot check’ of the available traction
>> conditions to see if deliberately locking up will slow you down any
>> faster. Hopefully /before/ finding out during a panic stop.
>Spot check? You mean the way any GOOD driver would always drive on a snowy
This ABS brainwashing has gone so far that insurance companies now
>day?
>offer discounts for it. Gag me.
>Doug
I live in sunny Southern California where snow is a /very/ rare
commodity unless you live up in the mountains (which I don’t), and I
know when it gets sloppy to see if, and how well, I can stop BEFORE I
have to.
You really only learn this lesson the hard way. Hadn’t driven the
Corvair for a few years (61 Monza coupe, 102Hp, PG), and forgot all
about those *wonderful* little 4-wheel drum brakes. That is, they’re
wonderful when they work right, but they don’t always… :-P
Heading out to Palm Springs to the Great Western Fan-Belt Toss and
Swap Meet, bopping along the freeway at 60 along with everyone else
for about a half-hour in a light rain, and then it slowed ahead. And
I suddenly found out I had three wet drums and one dry one… HELLO!
Left Turn, Clyde! 8-0
But there was still a bunch of traffic stopping very rapidly ahead,
so ‘not stopping’ was not an option – The choices were, you can either
come to a controlled stop, or an UNcontrolled stop…
Backed off the brake pedal a bit and corrected for the full-lock
sideways skid, then another drum dried out and it whipped around to
the *other* side… (Don’t ask me which one, I was a little too busy
saving my ass at the time to take notes…) Caught it again and the
last brake finally started working, and I could straighten up. Didn’t
hit anything or anyone, kept it in the same lane, going the right
direction, and managed to do it all without having a coronary.
–<< Bruce >>–
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And given enough money, anything is possible, but trading in
the 2002 for a 2003 with ABS will be a better option.
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> separately. Question, then Answer. Question, then Answer. This is a
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